this program last about an hour. >> host: david you are a millennial writing about millennials, sort of advising elders about the generation and first how old are you? >> guest: and 24. >> host: give me her background. where did you go to school and where did you grow up and what made you compelled to write this? >> guest: i'd grew up and connecticut an hour outside of new york city and is a student in high school i started a film festival for high school students in which we saw these great films coming in about young people writing about issues like rolling and teen suicide in 2000 three-way before

these things are part of the national conversation and you could see the power of film and the way it had to do my generation. from that decided to go make a film about the election in 2008 and went around the country interviewing members of congress about why they thought people weren't voting in trying to get them to vote and start an organization called generation 19 which took us around the country and registered new voters in 2000 then we did a similar film in 2012 as well is doing all that i went to in my youth where i graduated. >> host: we both were part of the same program then? >> guest: we both went there and it was a great program and a highly recommended. >> host: it allowed you to craft your own curriculum and you can cross-disciplines and that is the point. what did you do? >> guest: my concentration was the intersection of film technology -- technology with an emphasis on social change. >> host: your dedication page

reads in part to my mother and father the greatest boomers i know. let's talk about that generation for a minute because they get some flack for some mistakes that they made and have made. >> guest: i think the boomer generation was an incredibly and is an incredibly important generation and our nations history. much of what is going on today in america would not have been possible without them. the civil rights movement which they played a leading role in pushing out forward and ending the war in vietnam and changing the way we viewed citizen involvement in government, changing the way we think about our elected officials and the ability to create up star movements. i think all that was incredibly important and the beginning of the women's movement all that

great activism that it produced and all of that we are seeing that directly play out today whether it's the election of barack obama or the continued advancement of women in congress so all that is a direct result of their activism. that being said there is a lot of work left undone and i think that we now spend three fourths of our entitlement money on people who are over the age of 30 and it used to be we spent three for some people under the age of 30 in terms of the amount of money and investment. it's not in terms of generational warfare but i think we need to have a conversation about how we are dividing our priorities. this is not a generation that expects to get those entitlements by the way. this is not a generation that has and he believes the government going to give them out money. >> host: the activism you talked about from the baby boomer generation.

that's an activism that has trickled down to millennials or do you see them as more politically apathetic? >> guest: i think the activism of that generation was very much and still in the millennials and the children of the boomers as we were growing up. this was a generation of people who read us the news and talk this idea of values and the way we should be involved in responsibility and brought a lot of vets. into this generation. i think the way that we look at activism is totally different. the boomer generation believed an activism in the streets, marching and protesting and our generation believes you can be enacted this by creating a business that changes the way the world is thinking about thinking about energy friends since. a lot of young people who are starting green and alternative energy companies. we believe we can do through technology in all these ways that are very powerful. they are just not seen.

rather they are not seen by everyone else so i think that's part of the challenge that we face. people say we are apathetic and lazy because the activism is not as in-your-face and out there. >> host: i'm sure that is true but there is also this conceived that it's so easy. you can go on line and sign an on line petition or you can tweet something in that counts is that it is in today. is that affair could treat? >> guest: i think that idea has actually been pretty overplayed that somehow people in this generation feel impressed by a tweet and they have changed the world. i don't know anyone who has felt that way. what is happening now is there's greater awareness and accessibility towards political involvement and the involvement in social activity and that is a good thing. you know there are more people who are having some level of access to that process and the hope is are some of those people in the long-term that will develop into more.

that will develop into greater engagement. everything we know about how people develop says that if you introduce a habit or you introduce an idea to someone when they are young and impressionable in their formative years that later on that something that's going to become part of their life. the idea that people are texting $5, that's great. more young people are being donors than ever before and hopefully that means to the future people will believe it's a good thing to give money and make donations as they get older. so it's not that we are losing the people and the activists who are doing the hard work that also gaining people with at least a surface level engagement that can grow over time. >> host: we will return to politics and a bit but first described to me a millennials. what are the values of that generation? what are their goals? what is their identity and challenges, their assets which they bring to the table? ain't that picture for me. >> guest: this is a generation

that came of age in it. that i call the fast future. that's the title of the book. which means that in the past 10 years this generation has been growing up our world has gone through an accelerated pace of change. the amount of change that takes place today in one year is equal to the amount of change that took place in some entire centuries. once we have this revolution that shifts the fundamentals of our economy and you look at the industrial revolution and the introduction of the automobile, all these changes in our society are powered by technology which changes the pace of everything from how we communicate and how fast we expect people to respond to things to our political system and the pace of how quickly things happen and being in a constant feedback loop to the ability to trade stock in non-of seconds. millennials or at the forefront of that. we understand that is reality so other generations are running

around saying how do we adapt then how do we move? how do we go forward in this fast-paced world and millennials are taking it all in stride because that is the reality of how we grow. it's also brought us a sense of ease and adaptability. it's brought us the ability to be resilient in the economic crisis which has led to incredible youth unemployment and incredible debt for young people. young people are optimistic about their long-term economic future because they see that in one year could be totally different. we saw how quickly it started and we can see how quickly it might go away. there is a sense that the other other -- the grass is greener somewhere on the other side and we have an ability to know that we will get there. i think there's a sense of optimism and this is a sense of social mindedness that came out of 9/11 which was a formative experience in a lot of the minds of this generation, seeing our country in that particular moment and feeling the civic

spirit which i think was really ingrained in this generation at that moment and the search in the peace corps and the military. we are seeing a world in the past 10 years which is been focused on all the terrible things going on. if you think about the tenor of the national and international conversation it's been about oh my god, world is in trouble. there are terrible things going on all over the place. millennials have seen that and want to do something about it and we have the ability to do something about it. we have the ability to scale action in that way that previous generations haven't. >> host: how his growing up in the midst of what is essentially been a 10 year war on terror how is that change the millennial viewpoint? >> guest: it's me this generation realize we are part of an intricate dependent global world. this is the first global generation who is cognizant of the rest of the world being deeply related to us. you may have been able to in some ways live under a rock in

previous generations and be disconnected from the rest of the world and think about america only or your country only but i think you recognize that and i think fighting two wars has made this generation, first of all remember this is the generation who is fighting these wars in the overwhelmingly people who have had the experience of fighting these two wars and it's made this generation weary of the importance of going into battle and how much we need to do that and perhaps not necessarily a generation of peaceniks but less enthusiastic about the military in the future. but i think that's also the country as a whole. there is definitely a sense of fatigue around military involvement. what's interesting is we have lived in this time period without having to actually make any sacrifice around the fact that we have been at war. you can walk down the street and

there are no signs that we have been at war for the past 10 years. i think that's also something that's different about this generation is supposed to the generation of world war ii where it was an unavoidable part of daily life and everybody was aware that. that is what shape their overall consciousness. >> host: you mentioned global awareness. let's talk about globalization for a minute. there is this sort of michael hardt nihilistic view of globalization in the empire. there is optimist like thomas friedman. what is the millennial view on globalization? is it a good thing? is it a bad thing? it is than that of opal thing? what is the outlook? >> guest: >> guest: for some millennials its reality and we have had a debate for 25 plus years or longer than that in this country about should we enter a world

world of globalization or not we are here, that's the world we are living in and i call this generation a pro-reality generation which is on any number of issues where it seems that older generations are still having a debate. this generation sees this as the reality of our world and it may be good and it may be bad but this is the framework we have to work within. we are not going to make the world non-globalized. there is not a way to do that in this particular moment. >> host: there was an idea that globalization would help export democracy. this is from a 20-year-old, 15-year-old idea. you think the millennial generation shares that optimism and the claims of projects that globalization can accomplish and third world and developing countries? >> guest: i think that technology is certainly a force

that is help do that and technology perhaps is the greatest globalized it because the platforms in a lot of cases our country agnostic. there are web sites and pieces of content on the issue of censorship and things like that but in general there is an ability for me to be on a web site and be in touch with people all over the world. you think about what happened in the middle east and the arab spring and you think about part of that where joseph knight talks about smart power and hillary clinton did a lot of work on that as well, that culture and ideas and the ability for people to know what's going on in other parts of the world and be inspired by that. there's a lot of that going on in terms of exchange of ideas between global peers in the ability during the protests in wisconsin on the collective bargaining issues. they were young people who are holding up signs that said walk like an egyptian which i thought was a great way of showing that

local connectedness. those people felt inspired by what was going on in the arab spring around the same time and there was some kind of -- young people holding up the signs having that solidarity so that's a good way of thinking about the ability to, both from the west to other countries back to the west that young people are inspired and engage with their global peers. >> host: there has been criticism that young people have not been engaged in politics, in meaningful ways and they be their engagement feels cursory or superficial. does that fit? >> guest: i don't think that's fair. if you look at the last two election cycles the voter turnout was incredibly high. it was some of the highest on record. the enthusiasm i would characterize 2012 versus 2008 in terms of the number of young people who were going out and campaigning and people attending

rallies was definitely definitely decrease but at the end definitely decrease but at the end of the day the voter participation was about the same. so i think on the electoral side that's important. what you you're not seeing as much is young people willing to run for office in the kind of numbers they should. right now there is only one member of the united states congress under the age of 30 and i think that's a pretty shocking statistic especially since we just war and a a one the 113th congress and celebrated all the diversity and the numbers of women and minorities and different sexual orientations and all of that but at the same time we are looking at the oldest congress in history. one of the oldest congress as we have ever seen. aaron shock the congressman from illinois said if you've got all the members of congress under 40 together in a room and lock the door that they would solve all the problems and they could get everything done. i think that's a little bit of an overstatement but i think there's definitely something to

be said for the perspectives as young people in government, getting people are going into social entrepreneurship and people who are saying why would i run for congress when i could go to school and build a school in africa and see my impact and when you're? why would i get involved in that process? if you think about why people use to go into public service and you think about somebody like ted kennedy or jack kemp or these great readers who went in to help people as a form of service i don't think those people who are young today would do that. they might straight organizations to focus on organization in inner cities and impact that is what many of them did in the later parts of their life. we need to call young people back to this brain drain of all this great young talent going out of politics and doing great work in some of these other set is backing of the political process.

>> host: how do we do that? how does the political class in the current apparatus attract more young people? is irreparable? >> guest: it's very difficult at this point because the young people going into politics a lot of them are coming from the same approach, rising up through the ranks of running for city council and wanting to run. a young career politician is no better than an old career politician. we need people who have this sense of service and the sense of getting back into politics. i think it's a really tough question and there needs to be a generational commitment to do this. this generation needs to realize the importance. if you got a group of people together to do this then you could make -- because if i'm one person who believes that i'm not going to do it. if you are going to be someone like jim webb who came in to congress thanking they'd have an impact and checked out and said

there is no goal for one person if you don't have a coalition where people are willing to come together and solve problems, we need to come together and realize the importance to have a come to jesus moment if you will and run as a group. >> host: do you think that the current existing system ignores millennials? >> guest: yeah i think so because we are in a moment where everything we are talking about is about generational issues. everything we are talking about is about demographics and it's about long-term commitments and where we invest in where we put our priorities. that is all that is on the table from the fiscal cliff to every conversation we are having. millennials are absent from that conversation not for black of wanting to be but for black of politicians listening. and for not taking the views on

this generation seriously. i think there's a lot of desire by politicians to take into account -- because they see a direct connection to young people that young people don't just care about student loans and how our educational system is getting better although we care about those things very much. we care about issues that older americans care about. we care about where we are investing in this country and we care about all these things and politicians have been correctly assessed why that matters. young people who care about deficits and debt issues years ago. they said that was an important issue along time ago. >> host: yeah i'm sure that's true but is it really chew the young people are thinking about entitlement reform and you know long-term tax reform in that kind of thing? >> guest: i think they care about the basic principle behind it. i don't know that people of this generation or anyone are anyone

in this country has a detailed plan for how to address these things except some people in congress but i think we understand the principle behind meeting to make decisions and not wanting to be stuck with having to pay this bill down the road. i think that something this generation has been aware of because we have been talking about it for a long time. >> host: and not just sort of generalizing an entire generation but what do you think the millennials view is on the current state of the economy? things are not good and things are not looking good particularly for the future of this generation. they might be optimistic but they are also wrong in some sense. >> guest: well i'm not sure that they are wrong in the long-term. the optimism is important to note, it's not everything is great and everything is fine right now but it's an optimism here towards the future. i think as a group of 80 million people the largest generation in

history we believe that we might be also play a role in doing that. you have seen already young people being job creators, young people starting companies and this risen entrepreneurialism. the number of young people starting businesses right out of college is 15% of students right out of college actually starting businesses which is up 300% from where it was 20 years ago. i think that speaks to this generation that had to become entrepreneurs and had to be self starters out of necessity. we had to learn how to do that because of the economy and it comes natural to this generation we don't have to read in structural manuals and we know how to put things together and solve problems and fix fix it. i think you will see more of that but i think the challenge is going to be how we build scalable institutions and build bigger behemoth institutions. if you look like a company like

facebook which is arguably one of the most successful company started by someone in this generation they do not employed millions and onions or tens of thousands of people that a company like general electric does. so that will be the challenge. there will be many more smaller companies that millennials are going to start and they will be geared around the skills of the new economy, consumption and technology and around social enterprise. >> host: how does that negatively affect a walmart or brick-and-mortar traditional kinds of companies that employs millions of people, responsible for a big chunk of our economy? >> guest: millennials are reshaping a lot of the fundamentals of the economy because we have a different value set that cares about the commitment to the environment. almost every company that has been started by a millennials has some kind of social backside to it, whether it's a commitment

from the beginning to being green or whether it's actually baked into the mission of the company. this is a generation that is not buying homes. they are not getting married. they are the lowest car ownership in a long time. these are like the basic fundamental concepts of our economy. no one ever thought about the value to buy a home. basing our economy on homeownership and marriage and all these things. i am not an economist so i don't know how that is actually going to transform the economy but it's something that economy should be paying a lot more attention to. when we talk about young people not having a bright future in older people are incredibly pessimistic about this generation's future. it's because the economic futures based on these things

like homeownership in marriage. if all of these things are delayed the picture looks different. >> host: what kind of effects does the facebook generation and the generation interested in creating facebook like companies, what does that have on the walmart's? these traditional brick-and-mortar corporations that employ millions of people and are responsible for a huge chunk of our economy? how does that trickle-dtrickle-d own? >> guest: millennials are transforming the fundamentals of our economy. if you look at the ways that millennials value how they are spending their money and if you look at homeownership and you look at marriage. if you look at automobiles, they are at the lowest level since history so this generation is really pushing that kind of restructuring of the economy and we are going to have to figure out how we handle that. >> host: that sounds like it will have a big impact. >> guest: absolutely because this is not what economists,

this is not what the base things on. we have never had asked the question what if people didn't want to own a home? would have people then want to buy a home? >> host: for while we have been forcing people. >> guest: is interesting because part of it has to do with the economy but part of it is of value shift which is that since the 1950s we have had this idea that homeownership was equivalent with community and that marriage was equivalent with love and i think when you ask millennials to define someone you love and you're going to spend the rest of your life with a say yes and if you ask if getting married is as important piece they aren't as enthusiastic. people of this generation still continue to get married but the shift in what that means to people and i don't think it means this generation doesn't respect these institutions. it's that we view the fundamental essential thing of what it's about, community and love as being important and if

you look at how we are defining community we don't believe you need to be in the house to own to have that community and we can find a multiple communities and the part of them that are necessarily centered around our neighborhood are the people who live next to us. you can rent a home and still be part of the community and i think that is the big difference we are going to have to figure out it's a country how we do that. if you look at the kinds of companies that people are creating almost all of them have the social value. there is almost not a single millennials company that doesn't have a social value whether they are a green company or whether it's baked into the core. if you look at facebook's securities and exchange when they went public, this is a company with a social mission. no company has ever gone public and ever said that before. say what you want about them and they are company that is trying to make money but that's a something different about how this generation approaches business and what businesses for

>> host: even a walmart has gone green in its markets. >> guest: as a result of millennials pushing data millennials say they will switch brands. they will stop shopping somewhere they find a brand that shares their values. millennials are willing to work for companies that pay them less if they have greater social effects of this is something that's important is generation and not lost in these big companies. >> host: it's coming as a result of free market pressures you said. they are shopping elsewhere and voting with their wallet and not just social pressure and cultural pressure. >> guest: this is again another way of being an activist. it's much harder to see and studies that marketers and brand people look at a people's values and preferences but we are voting with our wallets. i think in some cases that's more effective than launching a boycott or picketing outside of a store.

that is not sustainable. >> host: we have seen that. let's take a quick break and we'll come back and pick this up in a minute. >> host: so i want to return to something we were talking about and that is the millennial impulse to sort of reject even if inadvertently traditional institutions like marriage for example and homeownership. there's a book out called what to expect when no one is is expecting and it's sort of an anti-malfusian review of a population boom but a coming population implosion. and the responsibility that millennials will have for that.

what messages do you think millennials would respond to if one wanted to try and encourage those traditional institutions again, marriage, homeownership etc.? >> guest: i think on the issues of marriage and homeownership we have to see a culture that is more authentic around both of those things. millennials care deeply about authenticity and i think when you think about how real estate has been sold and how the commercialization of the marriage industry and the whole economy around marriage. i think that has seemed to a generation that was looking to find love perhaps later in life or has been geared around the second generation of people going into those experiences and i think this generation is ultimately very funny and seems very over the top. and frankly people in the real

estate business haven't had to answer the question why is it important to buy a home? they just have to be a will to convince you why this home is the home for you. similarly people selling cars have never had to convince people why you need a car. they just say why you need a ford and not of chrysler. that is a challenge so you have to wrestle with that fundamental question which is difficult for industries that have not had to do that but that is what this generation is doing. they are forcing disruption and industries to think about these things in a new way and do some really hard work on these issues. this is what they have to do. this is a not a generation that will accept business as usual. >> host: well let's talk a little bit more about digital media, social networking. one of the first things we think about when we think of millennials is on line, the on

line capabilities and interests in social media and social networking. what kind of lesson should everyone else learn from millennials about that kind of technology and that kind of communication? >> guest: millennials actually straddle the line between being born in a world where they didn't have smartphones initially when they were born. they didn't spend high school on wikipedia. they sort of had the ability to be grounded initially in the pre-digital world. they understand those basic fundamentals and yet at the same time they have grown up alongside and i talk about in the book the way we have grown up with technology sort of like a good friend and that we have been the early adopters who have pushed all these technologies forward and these moments in

development so there's a symbiotic relationship between this generatiogeneratio n technology. we will always be the first adopters of new platforms and always feel to seamlessly incorporate them into our lives and what we are doing. further generations that doesn't mean that they can't learn how to use those. people of any generation can learn in any platform and successful on twitter and facebook. what is different is the arab spring is a good example of this change. people all over the middle east of all ages -- but it was young people who were able to like that sparked in large part the cause of their awareness to the rest of the world and their technology and access and also because they saw something that other generations didn't. they saw the ability to use those tools. digital tools could be a way to scale their impact.

and i think that's something that we -- that other generations don't have that into it if i'm going to go rights to this and that ability to be the first responders. >> host: and you talk about the other generations and you reference mark prensky and technology in education. i'm just going to read something that you say that he says. he said prensky goes on to point out examples of the digital immigrant accent including phonecalls to ask someone if they receive an e-mail renting out a document edited by hand, showing people a web site on your computer instead of e-mailing a link. that sounds like my parents. >> guest: well, it is. talk about it in a good way the idea of having an accent. it's a good way of thinking about people, other people of other generations can learn technology but there may be in

some cases some kind of accent that is still pleasant. when you have that accent it makes it harder to be a leader in the next generation of that technology. that is the advantage that the millennials really have. >> host: i think it's safe to say that social networking sites like twitter and facebook have really democratize consumption and production as well. you can be a news producer on facebook and as a news consumer i can aggregate my consumption experience and pick out and customize the way that i received my news. on twitter i can follow certain people and i get only the news that i want and i can filter out other news. how has that changed media and how will millennials continue to shape the media landscape going forward? >> guest: it's definitely change the economic models.

you are a television host and as you well know you will probably do a show and you will hear from someone a few days later with a great comment on your show because no one is watching it in real time. certainly people in this generation and the ability of what's going on on line is the constant conversation. i regularly check the hashtag on millennials on twitter and there was a report that came out almost a week ago now about millennials and how they are the most stressed generation. people are still talking about that in tweaking about that every day because some people are just coming to that news. while there is a sense of real-time communication there is also a delay. that leads to people always talking about everything and constant if you think about it like it tennis serve or a volley back and forth between consumers and producers and how new

content rises to the top. it's made of. -- particularly difficult for our political system because there is no ability to's. it used to be that we had a media system where at the end of the day everybody went to bed in the show was over. now we have a constant feedback loop which i think reticular be further generations is overwhelming. >> host: is overwhelming for my generation. that black of pause and that continual news cycle makes it really exciting and fast-paced and there is always something to talk about but it does sort of create this never-ending loop of experience where ideas live forever because you are constantly referencing back to that and you are constantly trying to keep up with developing moments. >> guest: yeah and i think you also have the sense that everybody can have a different take on a piece of information

and a sense that you have to comment. i think as journalism got into this initially a lot of journalists were uncomfortable about wading into the world of twitter because they said i am a columnist. i write my column and i don't want to comment on everything and 140 character so a lot of it is an overabundance of content. one of the challenges of this generation is defining how to curate well and there's a big opportunity for that. >> host: let's talk about one of those political moments. let's talk about wall street. that had a bid if it -- big effect on millennials and was influenced by millennials and in many ways a millennial project. was it successful or was it something of a failure? >> guest: the occupy wall street movement although it was characterized as a youth driven movement was actually not

dominated by young people. a handful of the voices that leaders were millennials and actually we did an analysis of who was at the protests in new york. only 23% of the people there were under the age of 30. so i think that is something that we should keep in mind. there has been a long history of youth being associated with protests. so when people see protests they assume youth and obviously young people are the most effective in the economy but i think what that movement did was sit help push a little bit of a dialogue about the relationship between business and people, the relationship of how people felt about corporations and how people felt about finance. that conversation had already been started before that i think one of the things that is interesting it says that movement was going on, use all

millennials who were there at occupy wall street celebrating a life of steve jobs which took place -- is death to place at the same moment that was going on and it was his great way of showing that millennials believe that corporations are part of our world while they can set standards and say we disagree with the financial practices but still celebrate in the court -- great leader and innovator in thinker and being able to hold both of those beliefs of the same time i think is one of the hallmarks of this generation. we don't like these practices but we celebrate the great things that american business and american leaders can do. >> host: i think a lot of people will remember looking back on occupy wall street there were a lot of news clips of someone putting a microphone and

a camera and a young person's face and asking why you were here and young people not been able to define the point. and actually that might have been by design and that might have been a success of the summa work out of 50's and the movements ,-com,-com ma successful mass movements are fake and they are undisciplined. if you are specific about your role once you reach it the movement is over. in keeping the goal of occupy wall street a little fake maybe that helped to prolong its life. >> guest: yeah i think that hits the nail right on the head as if you think about how social change to place in the 1960s, it did dissipate once the vietnam war ended and once the civil rights act was passed. since so much of the activism

had been pointed around those two things. the movement for social change dissipated in a lot of ways after that. people felt free to go back amongst their lives and that more sustainable activism, this idea that you can push things forward through more vague kinds of ways and occupy wall street was one example of that in that it helps push a conversation which i think today can be just as important as pushing specific action. so much of our world is driven by this media loop in this conversational loop. i think that does play an important role. >> host: so what is on the horizon in terms of activism and issues? what is the next big thing for millennials? >> guest: i think we are starting to see more and more action around energy and climate change. we so recently this protest in washington around climate changt

collectively in history movements around climate change and there were a lot of young people participating that but at the end of the day a lot of those people go back home and they do things in their daily lives that help push that. i am excited about what young people are doing and i'm very optimistic about people instead of big institutions and environmental lobbies lobbying for more federal money being appropriated to alternative energy research there are millennials that are starting -- though there's a crowd -- great company u.s. funded itself into existence basically doing solar energy and a lot of these things are started by millennials. why would we wait for the government to do this? clearly this is a big political fight and we can do this on our own. we can find ways to do that. >> host: and that is a perfect segue because that impulse feels

instinctively private sector and conservative and conservatives have had a very tough time reaching millennial voters and marketing their message to millennial voters. it sounds like this frustration on millennials why would we wait for the government to do something we can do ourselves might be an area where conservatives can tap into that small government entrepreneurial independent impulse that might appeal to that group of voters. >> guest: i think it definitely is a possible opportunity for republicans to help engage with young people some more. i think both parties need to be aware of the fickleness of this generation. this is not a party focus generation that is going to support democrats or republicans through and through. there are a lot of opportunities but i think the impulse towards solutions, the impulse towards

private-sector solutions or nonprofit solutions and it's both it's important to note is driven by the frustration with the politician. so i think the best thing they can do with the to show more openness and show more particularly on some of the social issues. i think conservatives could make up a lot of gravity because it's not just millennials that are changing these things. it's the whole country. >> host: let's talk about some of those social issues. some have described them to me and to be honest it's a particular interest to me. i want conservatism as a partisan. i want conservatism to have a better message for all of these voters. it's been described to me that conservatism needs to reconcile with marriage, weed and twitter. is it really that simple? ..

>> there is a lot of talk that all of these will the deals we'll become conservative but if the phrase that there is something about it i think history does not necessarily show it that people's impressions of the parties in values are formed when they're younger and they tend to stick with them for a long time. republicans have a window that is closing very quickly to be impressionable on these millennials and to reach out and it has to be more than hip-hop lyrics and just saying i am cool because that is so fake and

politicians do that people want to be spoken to like they are adults that is what brought the bombing did so well in 2008 spent time going to campuses and ask the and people for their vote a little thing politicians have done the death of to say here i am i am cool that actually asking people for their votes by they have in past generations. >> host: if they go to college campuses at all but admitted romney was criticized for ignoring polish voters and writing them off. >> guest: when you go to young voters and reach out you have a chance to reach out but this is one the most fascinating things of the campaign that was very under covered by he ran a program in iowa geared at a

high-school students because you can vote in the primary if you are 17 and will be 18 for the general so he went to the high schools targeting high school seniors who were 17 years old to engage them and that is one of the reasons he won the iowa caucus because of the unprecedented the engagement of the 17 year-old high-school 17 drones a year identified. >> host: we are never too early what does a democrat running what do they need to keep in mind while targeting this particular generation? >> this generation wants to hear a positive message and wants to be brought to the

table because they have been put on the chopping block and we have been left out and i've loved to see them engaging more young people in their campaigns. young people always work on campaign spent more people work on political campaigns and in the election in history more were it engaged in the process. the candidate to help bring those people is an get an usher in a movement over the long run i believe the campaign number of obama will be more important than his election because that campaigning gauge so many people who have done so many things to create a spark i hope 2016 there will be another movement like that. >> host: you talk about

ways that politicians engaged in popular culture. some do that successfully and some don't but how accurately does that judges and depict millennial is? >> had you seen the new net flex series house of cards? a lot got there grounding in politics now as alderman deals -- millennials now with those people the of the west wing it is the idealistic and optimistic reflection of the spirit of the time and the possibility then you see the character

who is the opportunistic and entrepreneurial person who takes the opportunity to work her way through the system to use it to her it vintage which is more representative of formal and deals are at but it is much more effective how people feel about politics it is a good book and how this generation feels. >> when a lot of people saying to of millennial san popular culture they think of the jersey shore that almost makes fun of the hipster. are those of unfair sure hand versions? >> you will find people and

that should not be criticized faroe always be people and we talk about what are the most important things that have an impact? the fact they are molecules does not have an impact on any other but that is representative of the girls of a small number of millennials and that the actor could put on a television show to right its to bring that to bypass the traditional establishment culture to present a different image that we don't normally see and that has been a good thing for the power how this

generation could create of a television show to dominate. >> host: besides them what our other millennials leaders? that you think will pave the way? >> in the book there are a lot of great stories and we may know some of the examples but there are some of its ohio that started an organization in their town when they saw the unemployment it went as high as 19% they came home and they were devastated so they started energize clinton can count -- clinton county they

brought young people back to be fellows and teach florist and shopowners how to use social media and learn new skills to encourage us to buy local and they are a great example of how young people not in cities or the spotlight to this hard work to move forward to make impact in their representative all over the country to be newly empowered to create change. >> host: looking back over history every generation is known for something what you think that millennials generation will be known for? >> guest: the people who push the country and the world in a better direction to help bring the world with a course correction. i don't think this

generation will solve every problem in our world but we're definitely on a good course to be more responsible and socially minded the success we have had to topple dictators are pretty impressive to create companies and powering connecting 1 billion people around the world so especially for a generation that has not turned a 30. >> host: really interested to see how this generation progresses and we will we keeping an eye out. thank you for joining us. >> guest: thank-you

still neck-and-neck the conservative political action conference which the author of return to order order, tell me about your book. >> it talks about the lack of restraint and modern economy how it is out of control. we talk about the need to return to the fundamentals of family and community and

faith that is what return to order is all about to look at the present economic crisis to propose real solutions. >> host: how did those social parameters affect the economy? >> what we have lost is the human element to create the bonds of trust and confidence that makes it possible of free market called social capital flows necessary bonds of trust making prosperity have been. >> host: with your thoughts of the current budget issues? >> it is a symptom of the problem. i call a a term called frenetic intemperance talks about the restraint as the ada you have to have everything now regardless of the consequences a restless

spirit that has implications of government our fix is organic christian society where people are treated like living beings but not machines, rooted in community of family and faith with the social ties and leadership. >> host: the author of return to order. thank you. >> we have to take back media independent media will save us. the media are the most powerful institutions on person more powerful than a bomb or missile. the onto this scene but it doesn't happen when it is contained by the box, the tv screen that we gaze out for

so many hours per week. we need to hear people speaking for themselves outside the box. we cannot afford the status quo any more from global warming.